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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: ? Reply with quote

ok, this is a religios question, and im atheist and i need a christian 2 answer.
if some1 was a very bad person who would go 2 hell when he dies, and hell would want to go to hell, because it would be like heaven 2 him, and heaven would be a hell 2 him, would he be tortured in heaven, or happy in hell?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats actually a good question thats very confusing because hell (supposedly) is just were you get toirtured you would have like a personal torture section so i suppose this persons section would be like heaven but he would be oin hell
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hell is described as a lake of fire, burning for all eternity but never being consumed by the fire, a place of torment! i dont see how anyone could enjoy that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hohum.

IMO, Hell doesn't exist. IMO, it was somehting designed back in the middle ages to scare the beejebus out of everyone so they would worship god, go to church and give priests money.

Besides, most normal chrisitians believe in a God that provides universal salvation for all. So most christians deny the existence of hell.

And I agree with them. Look at what Chris preahced about: Forgivness and love. And all loving, all forgiving god wouldn't need a place like hell. *shrug*

Thats the way I see it, and I prefer that belief system, then another where people see fit to condemn all those that don't agree/accept with their system of belief to go to the place that Wolverine has so kindly described for us.

And besides, why does an atheist even bother with such a question? If you're an atheist, hell dosen't exist, and therefore you don't have the ethical problem.

That's what I like about atheism. Its much easier. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best.

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Ever.

Since.

Ever.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

acctually frd just because most atheists belive there is no hell does not mean he does not it is his oppinion so not to be mean but it is not always about you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was asking to see the christians' answers. and the question kinda makes u think, and im just curios
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Hell exists then there goes the all loving all forgiving God. Unless in a weird twist of things Satan is God!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple answer, people say they like pain yet it's not possible. In hell you feel the most pain you've ever felt, your body changes so it's eternal torture. There's no paridise in hell.

No one could enjoy hell.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolverine wrote:
acctually frd just because most atheists belive there is no hell does not mean he does not it is his oppinion so not to be mean but it is not always about you.


If an atheist was to believe in hell, he wouldn't be an atheist.

To believe in hell would mean that a deity of some kind would have to exist in order to govern/create it. Which would mean that the atheist would have to believe in the deity as well.

So:

1) An atheist does not believe in any god.
2) Heaven and hell can only exist with the existence of a god
3) In order to comply with his own defintion, an atheist can not believe in hell, or heaven for that matter, because that would mean he believes in a deity as well.

So Wolverine, you'll excuse me if I assumed that all atheists didn't believe in hell. You know, what with that being the case and all.

At no point did I say it was about me. I gave my opinion, and then stated what I know to be true: If you don't believe it exists, why bother worrying about it?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm wondering if he's stone set on atheism why he's even asking this question, is it meant to be sort of a moccary?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A mockery?

I doubt it.

Its just like he said: Curiosity.

Not every atheist is as cynical as me, ya know, prehaps he just wants to know what other people believe?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine_Rabid_Dog wrote:
A mockery?


Me made a typo!

Quote:

I doubt it.

Its just like he said: Curiosity.

Not every atheist is as cynical as me, ya know, prehaps he just wants to know what other people believe?


You've turned me into a mean cruel internet person.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean you're not!?

Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know u say no1 could enjoy a hell if there was 1, but maybe 1 screwed up guy maybe likes 2 be tortured. this is a very hard question Laughing
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