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Marijuana?
It should be illigal.
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It should be legal.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="rickjames"]First of all, it is not good because you are not who you really are, you could go kill somoene because you are high.

Secondly it can and has been proven to lead to more seroius drugs.

Finally, I would really not want it to be legalized so people could get it more easily then the majority of the world would be potheads.......bad.[/quote]

thats already true..basicly.

and because it is illegal, alot of peopel just smoke it to be cool, so IMO makign it legal would probably reduce the people who smoke it. I know someone who has smoekd pot sicne he was 10 years old and is noy 45 and he is perfectly healthy.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickjames wrote:
Pyth wrote:
rickjames wrote:
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You DO haver control of youself while high.


You do not have control over what your mind sees. Accidents do happen because someone is high.

And yes it does lead to more serious drugs. People don't go strait to crack or heroine, they experiment with pot then think they need something stronger and go to other drugs.


1. Wrong. Most acccidents in cars are caused by unsafe speeds, improper turns, and stuff like that.

2. No, not nesscessarily. A VERY small perccentage go to things like heroin.


I didn't say most, I said that accidents DO happen due to the drug use of somoene.

I don't know about pot but, but more serious drugs do influence some people to kill.


1. That's not true with marijuana.

2. That is true. Which is why I'm not in favor off these more serious ones.

FFX, wrong. Drunkenness is very serious. High isn't. Besides, what kind of happy (high) person commits suicide?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyth wrote:


FFX, wrong. Drunkenness is very serious. High isn't. Besides, what kind of happy (high) person commits suicide?


I'm just going to attack this one, because I'm too tired to convince u of the rest of it.

Who's to say getting drunk will make u suicidal, some people drink for pleasure too, I drink(some) but does that make me a suicidal maniac that is trying to get drunk so I can blame slitting my wrists over my drunkenness? No. Secondly, high people commit suicide all the time. When the drugs take over, u lose sense of reality, i.e. some people think that they can fly. Absurd as it may seem, its true, and u CAN commit suicide like that. Also, and I can imagine, that its easier to slit ur wrists when ur high = /, because again, u lose the sense of reality.

80% of feeling is mental.

DISCLAIMER- I am not suicidal, have never/will never slit my wirsts, Im using this merely as an example.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive learned from a credible source that when you smoke marajuana or do crack or something that gets you high, it produces chemicals in your brain that make you high and dazed and stuff. If you do it too much the body will become dependant on those chemicals produced by the marajuana, causing addiction. Now some people are stupid enjough to move up to more dangerous stuff like crack and meth, because it better feeds their addiction. Ive only tried it about twice, and im not addicted. Just because it would be legal wouldnt drive everyone to start getting high 24/7, some people might just wanna chill out one night and smoke a bowl. Of couse the dangers of doing it too much should be emphesised like the ones you get when smoking ciggarettes. There are addicts to alchohol like there are to marajuana. people who smoke ciggarettes heavily like a pack or too a day develop cancer at a much quicker pace than someone who say smokes 2 or 3 a day.

remember knowing is half the battle. I went through the DARE program at my school, and I understand the dangers of doing drugs and drinking and smoking

+ there should also be laws that come with it, like alchohol. you cant go drinking and driving, because you might hurt someone. It should be the same if being high does the same to your performance. you can go get drunk in your house, why cant you go get high?(legaly)....think about it
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clear stuff up, before anyone says anything, Marajuana DOES NOT kill brain cells, it just temporarly shuts them down. Just a little note so someone to say it kills brain cells.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be ILLEGAL. It does some crazeh stuff, to some crazeh people.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Señor Sponge wrote:
Should be ILLEGAL. It does some crazeh stuff, to some crazeh people.


anything to back that up?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh if you search the net im sure you will find something
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a debate-- you need to bring your proof with you.

Hockey, so what? If we allow people to kill themselves with tobacco, why not allow the less dangerous drug marijuana? Why don't people high on tobacco commit suicide?

Simple, high people just don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rickjames wrote:
First of all, it is not good because you are not who you really are, you could go kill somoene because you are high.

Secondly it can and has been proven to lead to more seroius drugs.

Finally, I would really not want it to be legalized so people could get it more easily then the majority of the world would be potheads.......bad.


Bullshit! I've been smoking the stuff since I was 16. I've not touched any other drug since then, and I don't plan to.

Not only that, but the idea that someone stoned from dope will kill someone is totally laughable! We our ourselves when high.... just... a bit more giggly.

I'm going to have to pick thoruhg every post now...
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vahncelot wrote:
Señor Sponge wrote:
Should be ILLEGAL. It does some crazeh stuff, to some crazeh people.


anything to back that up?


STFU. I don't need to. Everybody knows its a load of shit.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine_Rabid_Dog wrote:
rickjames wrote:
First of all, it is not good because you are not who you really are, you could go kill somoene because you are high.

Secondly it can and has been proven to lead to more seroius drugs.

Finally, I would really not want it to be legalized so people could get it more easily then the majority of the world would be potheads.......bad.


Bullshit! I've been smoking the stuff since I was 16. I've not touched any other drug since then, and I don't plan to.

Not only that, but the idea that someone stoned from dope will kill someone is totally laughable! We our ourselves when high.... just... a bit more giggly.

I'm going to have to pick thoruhg every post now...


I didn't say that all people will go to other, more powerful drugs.

But the chances that someone goes strait to heroine are slim. People experiment with pot first then they go to stronger drugs.. If they didn't experiment with pot they wouldnt have gone to others. Again, I'm not saying all do.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Señor Sponge wrote:
Vahncelot wrote:
Señor Sponge wrote:
Should be ILLEGAL. It does some crazeh stuff, to some crazeh people.


anything to back that up?


STFU. I don't need to. Everybody knows its a load of [explicit].


So basically, you're saying that you're right and we're wrong.

Yeah, nice form of debate Senor Sponge.

Basically:

No proof->No argument->No win.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyth wrote:
Señor Sponge wrote:
Vahncelot wrote:
Señor Sponge wrote:
Should be ILLEGAL. It does some crazeh stuff, to some crazeh people.


anything to back that up?


STFU. I don't need to. Everybody knows its a load of [explicit].


So basically, you're saying that you're right and we're wrong.

Yeah, nice form of debate Senor Sponge.

Basically:

No proof->No argument->No win.


http://senor.sponge.justgotowned.com/
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Marijuana Legalization Reply with quote

Pyth wrote:
You see, unlike most other drugs, marijuana does NOT make you go insane, whatever some government media thing might make you believe. I've known marijuana users-- They haven't killed me or harmed me (even if I found them high). And I ask you to find evidence they do go insane. At all.


Nope... sorry pal. Wrong. Certain strains of dope, like the most popular/common type "skunk", have been proven to cause pyschosis in those more subceptable to mental illness (if it runs in the family, already depressed etc).

The brain reacts to the altered state its in. The results aren't always positive. Well, as positive as "Whoah dude! I'm like... totally stoned" can get...

Pyth wrote:
I don't smoke the stuff. I personally feel no need to get a high. But it has no adverse effects-- nobody, yes NOBODY has died becuase of marijuana overdose. It's not toxic enough. As such, there's NO reason to keep it out of people's hands. And making it illegal? Well, it isn't working.


I can't help but agree there. Nobody has died. But I know a few people that have gotten themselves sick on the stuff. Bad trips and all that. Yadda yadda.

Pyth wrote:
Did I mention medical use? It relives nausea and pain, and brings back appetite. Again, I haven't used it, but people SHOULD be able to! It's FREEDOM OF CHOICE. If we have freedom of speech, why not choice? As long as that choice harms nobody else, then it shoule be legal.


I don't believe dope should be used as medicine. Its a stupid idea. The healing procecss is the health of both body and mind. A mind altering substance is going to keep the brain in an un-optimum state. Plus smoking the stuff wjhilst ill is going to slow the healing process down as well. THe smoke kills whit bacteria, and all that jazz, which balls the whole process up.

Pyth wrote:
So, as an end to this post, I'd liek to demand to be conviced that:

1. Marijuana is bad for you

2. That it makes you insane

3. THat it should not be legalized.

Thanks for your time and no offense meant.


1. Dope is bad for you. Pyschosis and lung cancer, Joy!

2.Insane is a cliched, overused, american propaganda word. Dope won't make you froth at the mouth, but there's a chance you could become a tad... unhinged.

3. Legality is a toughy. On the one hand, becuase its no longer the "forbidden fruit" people might stop being tempted. And it'll ower the prices. But on the other hand, if it becomes easier to get, those who are depressed, who've had abusive childhoods... what if they get it? If they become mentally ill, is legality worth it?
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