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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vahncelot wrote:
Maybe we are in someones dream, and in their dream they can control it, as say, what we would call, god? think about it


That's interesting...I had never read this when it was active. I like that idea.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan if someone punches you somewhere and it hust then you exist.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All that means is that you are precieving an electrical current through your nerves saying that you hurt.

A Cortizone shot actually stops the body from feeling pain. So, if you take that it doesn't hurt. It's tricking your brain.

But also, you didn't read what I said before. You wouldn't have ever existed to hit me if our own math is true.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan if i dont exist how am i posting right now?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are precieving that you are typing. Electrical signals can be faked. For all you know, you could be in a Matrix.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if im in the matrix i am someone being controlled by something therefore i exist.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But your whole reality could be fake!

But also, if read my first post here, we don't exist. Or our math is wrong. But either way, something is amiss.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you saying we dont exist???
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is distinctly possible in my opinion. I can't really explain it, but I think it could be.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if we dont exist then darwin the man who thought up evolution doesnt exist therefore god is real and evolution had nothing to do with creating anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is god real? If we don't exist, anything we say can't exist, and he couldn't have made us if we don't exist. And since man apparently said the bible, even if it was god's word, he still made it.

Therefore religion doesn't exist, and neither does god.

So because man doesn't exist to make the theory of evolution he can exist to make religion and organize it? Where is the logic there. You're trying to play two sides of the fence. Either they both exist or neither do.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gah. BUT WAIT. God isnt man and therefore he exist. God is the one who made religion not us. Another thing if we dont exist then why are there books about endless history in schools if we dont exist where did the books come from? And what are they based on?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wolf, you obviously did not read what I said in the first post.

If motion is not possible, cellular reproduction is not possible. So the papyrus that the Bible was written on can't exist. The brick the schools are made of isn't real. God can't be real either. Because if out there, somewhere, god has any physical being he isn't real. Not possible.

All of those things are just what you see, what you think, what you smell, if this is true cannot be real. It's what you are precieving, not real. None of it exists, or it means that our math system is wrong. But then that challenges everything we have to base things on, buildings, everything.

I know it's a hard concept to understand, but still.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolf wrote:
Gah. BUT WAIT. God isnt man and therefore he exist. God is the one who made religion not us. Another thing if we dont exist then why are there books about endless history in schools if we dont exist where did the books come from? And what are they based on?


I just have a problem with the first line but I'm picky like that. God did not make religion. Religion is a man made concept to explain things and maybe the mystery of God. Have you seen the Matrix Wolf? In the film the world is a computer program and we are all in that computer program.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holymonkey i have seen the matrix but even in a computer program we exist because we are made of pixels and pixels exist.
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